John Stanley Notebook


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Thursday, March 18, 2010


Little Lulu #19

Along with my friends Frank Young and Gail Singer, I just recorded an Inkstuds episode devoted to John Stanley. You can listen to it here.

And below are some excerpts from my John Stanley notebook:

 Stanley as Lulu. Month after month, Lulu had to improvise a story to please that pesky small-fry Alvin. Lulu was adept at spinning out burlesque yarns featuring stock characters – poor girls, kings, witches — and coming up with new scenarios for them to enact. Wasn’t Lulu’s plight the same as Stanley’s? He was on a story tread mill, he had to keep running to make the kids happy, there was no let up or relief for nearly thirty years.

Mummy as Enabler. Is it too much to see Melvin Monster as an allegory about child abuse? Melvin’s always under the threat of violence, sometimes death itself. His chief persecutor is his father, Baddy. The name says it all: Baddy equals bad daddy (a pun related to Blake’s nickname for the God of organized religion: Nobodaddy). Melvin’s mother, Mummy, is all wrapped up in the Egyptian manner. That means she has no eyes to see what is happening. She turns a blind eye to Melvin’s situation. That’s the way it often is with abusive families: one parent is violent, the other a blinkered or self-deceived enabler.

Ma and Dad. In Stanley’s stories when a kid is trouble there is only one person to cry for: “Ma!” Fathers are either violent (Baddy) or ineffectual and subject to suspicion (Mr. Moppet).

The Arc of Stanley’s Career. With Stanley’s peers – Kurtzman, Barks, Eisner, Kirby – we have a sense of the trajectory of their careers, the ups and downs, what the major works were as well as the artistic dead-ends (i.e., Kurtzman’s Little Annie Fanny). With Stanley we’re only now, thanks to the reprints from various publishers and the plethora of online stories as well as the excellent analysis of Frank Young, getting a sense of what his career was like. But we’re still mostly working in the dark, hazarding guesses. Little Lulu and Tubby stand out as his major work, and I’d say Thirteen Going on Eighteen is a close second.

Part of the difficulty of evaluating Stanley’s career is he maintained a consistently high quality, with very few drops. Unlike Barks, we can’t pinpoint what the good years of Stanley were (1949-1954 in the case of Barks, especially with the 10 pagers in Walt Disney Comics and Stories). Some Stanley stories are outstanding (“Five Little Babies” from Little Lulu #38, available in the Spiegelman/Mouly Toon Treasury is probably his single greatest work). And some of the work is inferior – I’m not a fan of most of the Nancy stories which seem haphazard and lackadaisical (except when they feature Oona Goosepimple). And around issue 94 of Lulu he seemed to lose heart, at least for a little bit. But the rest of the work has an even keel that is both admirable and a bit off-putting (at least if you are a critic; it’s great for readers). It’s hard to point to any group of stories and say, “Here is the core of Stanley.”

Stanley’s M.O.: Stanley had a consistent method which was to look at an existing genre and ask, “how would this look if it were done right.” Thus he looked at teen comics and came up with Dunc & Loo, as well as Thirteen Going on Eighteen (or as I call it, “Betty and Veronica done by an intelligent writer”). Stanley looked at horror and came up with Ghost Stories and Tales from the Tomb, at the monster craze and came up with Melvin Monster, at Richie Rich and came up with O.G. Whiz. This would argue for the modesty of his goals. Stanley was a journeyman cartoonist.

Journeyman. If Stanley were just a “journeyman” cartoonist, he was the greatest journeyman cartoonist who ever lived. He brought to perfection a type of modest, anonymous, professional cartooning, something that has disappeared from the world.  

Hard to Parody. Evidence of Stanley’s modest craft can be seen in how hard he is to parody, compared to such visual showmen as Eisner or Kirby. Even as towering a cartoonist as Justin Green couldn’t do it. Green did a Lulu parody for Bijou Funnies which wasn’t very good at all, and is actually much more dated than Stanley’s work. Howard Cruse’s Lulu parody is also weak tea. The great exception is R. Sikoryak’s mash-up of Hawthorne with the Stanley/Tripp Lulu. The great merit of Sikoryak’s work, aside from his perfect as usually visual imitation, is that the plot of The Scarlett Letter does indeed echo the guilt-and-suspicion family psychodrama of Stanley’s stories where Tubby is a detective.

The Class War. Stanley’s people are middling types, threatened on one side by the rich (Wilbur Van Snobbe in the Lulu stories) and on the other side by violent plebes (the West Side Boys). This middling position makes their lives precarious. They have a fear of falling into the proletarian class but also resentment towards the snooty rich.

Humor and Horror. Humor and Horror are closely aligned in Stanley’s work. The horror stories of the early 1960s are only slightly more earnest variations of the tales Lulu would tell Alvin. The great Tubby story “The Guest in the Ghost Hotel” (available in the Toon Treasury) could, with a minor change of key, be a horror story. Laughter is always a way of warding off unease.

Like a Dream. Douglas Glover: “The best novels are like dreams. They come out of the silence of the page like a dream…Like dreams, novels are available to interpretation; the best novels have a central luminous mystery at their core, which tempts generations upon generations of critics and readers to find new structures and meanings beyond the surface of the words.” (From  Branko Gorjup’s White Gloves of the Doorman: The Works of Leon Rooke, page. 244). Many of Stanley’s stories have a dream logic to them, stories where characters find themselves inappropriately dressed or half-naked in public places (“Five Little Babies” or a Thirteen story where Val sleepwalks through the city), stories where characters try to get to school on time or meet another deadline but are constantly delayed by unexpected events, stories where unlikely embarrasing events keep escalating. Stanley must have had a rich dream life, and he wrote like a dream.

Progeny. Who are Stanley’s artistic heirs? Crumb. Seth. Carol Tyler. Justin Green. Lynn Johnston. Howard Cruse. Jaime Hernandez. Gilbert Hernandez. Kevin Huizenga. Maybe Lynda Barry – I’m not absolutely sure. She’s too young to have read Stanley’s Lulu but maybe she read some of his 1960s work. All in all, a worthy tribe.

Stanley motifs. A few recurring things: days at the beach, rainy days, umbrellas, rowboats, screaming.

Recurring character types. Catchers and collectors (dog catchers, butterfly collectors, monster collectors, truant officers); bewitching girls who are probably no good for you (Oona Goosepimple, Little Horror, Gloria); fat kids; snooty rich people.

More Stanley notes. See here and here.

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17 Responses to “John Stanley Notebook”
  1. patrick ford says:

    It’s unfortunate that to this point no one has reprinted the Tubby comic book.
    Many fans might not know that unlike Lulu, Stanley penciled and inked a good number of the Tubby stories.
    Another point of interest is that Lulu either never, or very rarely (I only have about half the run) appears in the Tubby comic book.
    I’d also like more fans of Stanley pester Dark Horse into reprinting the various giant sized Lulu specials, especially the Halloween issues which are all in essence graphic novels.
    I have been bugging them about this for the past four years.

  2. Since the Tubby book was done after the Lulu, Dark Horse is going to put out the Tubby collections once Lulu is completed.

    I second the reproduction of the Giant Sized comics, but not in their color usual color scheme of erasing the faded paper to white and leaving the garish, high-contrasting color. I want them in the same vein as the D&Q collections.

  3. Jeet Heer says:

    Actually, Drawn and Quarterly is going to be doing Tubby, which is good news since it means it’ll be done right. See here:

    http://www.drawnandquarterly.com/blog/2010_03_01_archive.php#7153033841789570325

    • daniel jose mata says:

      I just thought they had a Tubby story in their FCBD comic, not as a preview of an upcoming project. I hope the covers are included like they are in Dark Horse ones.

  4. patrick ford says:

    That’s great news Jeet.
    I wonder if Frank, Jeet or anyone knows why the Lulu Giants weren’t reprinted by Russ Cochran, and haven’t been reprinted by Dark Horse either.
    I’ve got quite a few, but there were many I don’t have.
    Frank mentions two Lulu Giants I wasn’t aware of in his most recent post at Stanley Stories.
    One of the Giants posted by Frank features the only instances in the 1950’s where Stanley did complete pencils and inks on Lulu stories.

  5. frank young says:

    I don’t know why the giant Little Lulu comix have remained out of print. I believe that Stanley did at least six original giants in the ’50s (two summer camp specials, two Halloweens, and the ‘Special Friends’ and ‘And Her Friends’ books).

    Classic Media’s proclaimed ownership of the giant Lulus (and of the first eight issues of Tubby) have possibly kept them out of circulation. These media conglomerates can be quite unreasonable, unless they see $$$$ in the picture.

    To correct what Patrick Ford said, Stanley also did much of the finished art for issue 31 of the regular Lulu series, in 1951. In both cases, the artwork looks rather hurried. I would love to know why Stanley was pressed to do the finishes. They smack of the 11th hour, of an all-night session with a cheap portable radio blaring away in the background…

    Stanley also drew Tubby issues 2 through 9. At least we’ll get a nice reprint of the last one of this run in D+Q’s Tubby book.

    To answer Jeet’s question about Stanley’s peak periods, here’s my chronological list:

    1945-9 (for all his work, which includes his first original comix creations, Peterkin Pottle and Jigger and Mooch, and strong stories featuring various licensed characters. He drew and wrote several Woody Woodpecker stories in 1945/6, and did some beautiful one-page gag cartoons with the character. This is also the era when his New Yorker cartoon was published)

    1951-5 (a consistent, focused, impressive mass of work, including his beautiful cartooning on those 8 issues of Tubby)

    1961-7 (for Dunc n’ Loo, Nancy, Thirteen Going on Eighteen, Melvin Monster, and for his attempts to write different kinds of comix)

  6. patrick ford says:

    Frank, I have three Halloween specials by Stanley.
    Little Lulu and Witch Hazel Halloween Fun No. 36 1960 is reprints I take it?
    There is also a Giant Tubby.
    Tubby and His Clubhouse Pals No. 1
    What about, Lulu and Tubby in Alaska? If the book (one long episodic story) isn’t by Stanley it’s a fine imitation.

  7. ‘Actually, Drawn and Quarterly is going to be doing Tubby, which is good news since it means it’ll be done right.’

    I actually thought the DK lulu books were the best done reprint project in ages. They were affordable, no frills, and presented the artwork clearly. Working in a comic store for years, they were incredibly popular with KIDS. more desirable for kids to get those simple DK lulu books then the (in my mind) over produced melvin monster book.

  8. i like the d and q stanley stuff fine, by the way. so great those comics are in print. and im sure the ‘why is seth art on the cover??’ argument is long dead.
    i just dont see why the DK effort for lulu hasnt gotten greater respect or has to be viewed as inherently inferior. honestly, i wish more reprint projects followed that model.

  9. re: “Ma and Dad.” That’s not something that’s particular to Stanley. A good deal of children’s literature, TV shows and movies usually have the mother in the saintly, can do no wrong role, and the dad either painted as a goofball or a threat.

  10. Jeet Heer says:

    @Chris Mautner. Fair enough, but not universally true. Little Orphan Annie met many kind dads and threatening mother figures (like Mrs. Bleating-Hart). Or look at Gasoline Alley and the difference between Uncle Walt (the adopted dad of Skeezix) and his natural mother (Madame Octave).

    @Austin English. Slowly I turned, step by step, inch by inch…

  11. Jeet Heer says:

    @Frank Young. The years you list as “peak” add up to 17 years. Stanley only worked in comics for 28 years. To say that 17 out of 28 years were week is to say that he maintained a consistently high standard for a long time.

  12. I’m not sure I understand parts of this paragraph:

    “Progeny. Who are Stanley’s artistic heirs? Crumb. Seth. Carol Tyler. Justin Green. Lynn Johnston. Harold Cruse. Jaime Hernandez. Gilbert Hernandez. Kevin Huizenga. Maybe Lynda Barry – I’m not absolutely sure. She’s too young to have read Stanley’s Lulu but maybe she read some of his 1960s work.”

    Who is “Harold Cruse”? Did you mean “Howard”?

    How is Lynda Barry “too young” compared to most of the other artists you mention, many of whome areactually years or decades younger? Steven Weissman (though I can’t stand his work) might be added to the list of Stanley’s heirs as well.

  13. Jeet Heer says:

    @Jeffrey Meyer. Right, “Howard Cruse” not “Harold Cruse” (I was confusing the cartoonist with the distinguished author of The Crisis of The Negro Intellectual). I’ve corrected Cruse’s name.

    Weissman belongs on the list. He did an interesting reworking of one of Stanley’s horror stories.

    The reason I’m not sure about Barry is that I know the others like to read old comics, but I’m not so sure about Barry. I really don’t know how much of Stanley’s work Barry has read. I’d love to find out.

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