Walt Wasn’t Available: Dapper Dan’s SuperMovies Column #1
by Dan Nadel
Wednesday, July 14, 2010
Geoff Boucher reports about the Thor movie over at the LA Times. I know, I know, it’s just a movie. It has nothing to do with the many things I like about 1960s Thor. And I don’t even care about this stuff, except… C’mon guys, you couldn’t have designed even slightly better costumes? Honestly? It’s just lazy looking. There are many cool things about circa 1960s Thor, most of them beginning and ending with Jack Kirby’s literary and visual ideas. But among the coolest were the costumes! Mind-bendingly intricate mythological armor and sets with a nearly psychedelic color palette. Where is all that? These pictures look kinda like Iron Man. Or X-Men. Or whatever. Point, is, where’s the color? The scale? The imagination? It’s a movie, natch, and things have to somewhat simplified, and it’s Hollywood and blah blah. I know it all already. But… No one thought to call Walt Simonson? Hell, if I were them I’d call CF! Or William Stout! Or Moebius! Call somebody! Anyhow, thus endeth my pointless afternoon rant. Sigh.
Labels: apocalypse, comics vs. movies, Jack Kirby, Marvel, Thor
no hats!!! where’s Thor’s big winged hat? if he ain’t wearing no big winged hat, then he ain’t no Thor. and Loki looks crap. really crap. ah, well. all of my initial excitement ( and, honestly, I was REALLY excited about a Thor film ) has gone, completely. yeah, you’re right, it’s only a film, but. . .hell, no! it’s Thor film! I wanted big and bold and. . .well, God-like Kirby grandeur, and this. . .this is more crappy afternoon made-for-tv movie on the sci-fi channel.
anyhow, thus endeth my pointless enthusiasm. sigh.
If you really wanna corner the AICN market, you need to learn to write more fragments and run-on sentences, and boast about your fabricated asian wife.
Why they took the photo in that concrete box of a room is beyond me, because they’ve already shown a part of the set that at least looked better than that (though I wouldn’t say it looked like a Kirby drawing.)
The costume designs are more similar to Kirby’s than I thought I could realistically expect, given the current standards of the industry in general and comic book movies in particular. This is still only three years after a feature film adaptation of the Galactus story that didn’t feature Galactus in any form, four years after an X-Men film that featured a “sentinel” fight that didn’t actually involve a sentinel.
Despite some fairly bad decisions recently, Marvel Studios still seem to be trying harder than anyone else making these things. I had always assumed that a Thor adaptation from a studio would chuck the comics entirely and portray Asgard more or less like a Lord of the Rings movie. We instead have an Asgard that exists in space and Asgardians who wear outer space sci-fi fantasy armor covered with little circles and interlocking plates. Everyone has big horny helmets, they’re just not wearing them in these photos. It may be premature to judge, based on the handful of images and clips released so far, but it looks like the color palette’s the farthest element from the mark. Instead of the dull earth tones of generic fantasy production design it looks like we have loads of gold, silver, and bronze surfaces–shiny earth tones. There’s a phobia of bright colors for some reason; you can see it in their costume design for Captain America, too. Muted colors are desirable because they’re somehow perceived as “realistic” even when we’re dealing with subject matter that isn’t realistic in the slightest. It’s a superficial, crazy decision that’s symptomatic of what you might call the “Jason Bourneification” or the “Casino Royaleifcation” or the “Chris Nolan Dark Knightification” or the “J J Abrams Star Trekifcation” of our expensive popular culture.
I would really like to see a new comic book movie with visual imagination to match Bava’s Diabolik, or the De Laurentiis production of Flash Gordon, or the first two Batman features (66, 89,) or Beatty’s Dick Tracy. I don’t anticipate that any time soon. Sin City set a new kind of standard that nobody’s really made much of a response to yet (it didn’t help that it was usurped by bad Zack Snyder movies.) I’m waiting to see what Wright’s done on Scott Pilgrim.
With specific regard to Kirby adaptations: if this is as close as it gets to the “Kirby-est” book from the 60s, this is as good as it gets. The studio who made The Dark Knight owns all the Fourth World material, and I definitely would not expect them to outdo Branagh and co.’s efforts here (and that’s even if they ever felt like tackling that stuff, which they could easily avoid indefinitely.)
Odin does have a gold eye patch. I wouldn’t mind having one of those.
Do they make all movies drab and brown now so that the cgi is easier to manipulate? Someone needs to re-color this – maybe we’ll hold a contest or something. Re-color Thor publicity shots and win a no-prize.
And what is that box that Thor is holding? Oh, it’s his hammer. Sorry.
I’m pretty sure setting it in a bland, featureless room and coloring everything all drab and brown has more to do with Marvel wanting the film to match up with the way Thor comics currently look.
(spit-take)!
At least they look more like the originals than Clive Barker’s Green Lantern http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/07/15/ryan-reynolds-as-green-lantern/
Thanks, Dan!
I would LOVE to have designed (redesigned?) Thor! I still have all of my Tales of Asgard comics. I also just contributed an oil painting and seven ink and watercolor images to the Wagner Ring Cycle exhibitions in Los Angeles. Right up my cinematic design alley.
I don’t get the Iron Man Odin…What th—? It looks like Hollywood playing it safe (and unimaginative) again rather than breaking new and exciting ground. Damn!
That gold eye-patch is apparently glued to Odin’s face?
They should have given Odin one of his ravens perched on his shoulder. That would be pretty cool.
Oh, and I hope the movie Thor rides in his cart pulled by gnarly goats. That’s the only acceptable way for a Norse god to travel.
This actually reminds me of that first Thomas Jane Punisher image they released with him in his mom’s basement.
KS
Dan, you are right in so many ways. Kirby left enough of a blueprint in terms of design that adapting it to a movie should be pretty easy. There just doesn’t seem to be a unique visual style here. Odin needs to be big. Not huge big, but bigger than everyone else. He’s massive. He’s Odin. This is Anthony Hopkins with a white beard. I like Anthony Hopkins, but Odin needs to be kind of scary. I could go on, but you’ve covered it very well.
“Oh, I thought this was an audition for Clash of the Wotans…”
Branagh is a lousy director, and his attempts at directorial ‘flair’ have been cack-handed pastiches that didn’t even ‘get’ what it was pastiching (Dead Again, anyone?).
Doubtlessly Hollywood philistines read one Thor comic and thought Branagh’s ‘Shakespearean’ credentials qualified him for Thor. A Lars Von Trier would have made a ham-fisted mess of it, but at least a visually daring, memorable mess!
If you want to smell a turkey before it’s cooked, check for certain names: Samuel L. Jackson, John Travolta, Cuba Gooding Jr. – and Anthony Hopkins. These guys would appear in propaganda films for Robert Mugabe if the money was right.
Weak. They look like they have kid’s play outfits on. The armour looks plastic and flimsy. I’d have actually liked to see Thor look like he does in the comics currently. I’m curious about his arm and leg armour as it looks like quilted metal and I can’t imagine how it would look in real life. Also he looks far too weedy in this image. In the comics he’s like a fucking wall of muscle.
With a foot – wide head.
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