{"id":6597,"date":"2010-10-22T00:11:13","date_gmt":"2010-10-22T04:11:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/comicscomicsmag.com\/?p=6597"},"modified":"2010-10-22T00:11:13","modified_gmt":"2010-10-22T04:11:13","slug":"talking-comics-criticism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/comicscomicsmag.com\/?p=6597","title":{"rendered":"Talking Comics Criticism"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_6598\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/comicscomicsmag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/macdonald.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-6598\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-6598\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/comicscomicsmag.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/macdonald.jpg?resize=300%2C140\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"140\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-6598\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dwight Macdonald: one of Gary Groth&#039;s heroes<\/p><\/div>\n<p>On the Inkstuds program earlier today, Gary Groth, Ben Schwartz and I talked about comics criticism with Robin McConnell. The pretext was Ben&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.powells.com\/partner\/30974\/biblio\/62-9781606991480-0?&amp;PID=30974\">recent anthology of essays and interviews on comics<\/a>. You can listen to the show <a href=\"http:\/\/inkstuds.com\/?p=3205\">here<\/a>. The discussion ran all over the place. Among other topics discussed:<\/p>\n<p>1. The transformative\u00a0 role played by Gil Kane in getting people to talk about visual storytelling as well as literary narrative, and in general Kane as a spark for comics criticism and enthusiasm about comics.<\/p>\n<p>2. The difference between art and entertainment.<\/p>\n<p>3. The importance of destructive criticism (with discussions of the relative merits of Mark Twain, H.L. Mencken, and Dwight Macdonald). I wish I had remembered to mention John Metcalf, who belongs in this tradition.<\/p>\n<p>4. The seductive dangers posed by Mencken&#8217;s style.\u00a0 Again, I wish I had remembered Christopher Hitchens&#8217;s great sentence about the impact of Mencken on some of his dimmer imitators: &#8220;No wonder, then, that in his ill-tempered and misanthropic shape, [Mencken] has  been adopted as a premature foe of \u2018PC&#8217; by the rancorous crowd of minor  swells who put out the American Spectator. &#8221;<\/p>\n<p>5. Why Mark Beyer, David Collier and Kim Deitch need critical champions (although Gary mentioned that there is an essay by Gary Giddins on Deitch&#8217;s work. I had no idea that this essay existed and will now have to track it down).<\/p>\n<p>6. The reputational status of Eisner and Spiegelman.<\/p>\n<p>If you are interested in these and related topics, listen to the show.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>On the Inkstuds program earlier today, Gary Groth, Ben Schwartz and I talked about comics criticism with Robin McConnell. The pretext was Ben&#8217;s recent anthology of essays and interviews on comics. You can listen to the show here. The discussion ran all over the place. Among other topics discussed: 1. The transformative\u00a0 role played by Gil Kane in getting people to talk about visual storytelling as well as literary narrative, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"nf_dc_page":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[83,106,288,384,478,591,639,1131],"class_list":["post-6597","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-blog","tag-audio","tag-ben-schwartz","tag-criticism","tag-dwight-macdonald","tag-groth","tag-inkstuds","tag-j-heer","tag-robin-mcconnell"],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/comicscomicsmag.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6597","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/comicscomicsmag.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/comicscomicsmag.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/comicscomicsmag.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/comicscomicsmag.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=6597"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/comicscomicsmag.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6597\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/comicscomicsmag.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=6597"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/comicscomicsmag.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=6597"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/comicscomicsmag.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=6597"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}