{"id":489,"date":"2009-06-16T16:45:00","date_gmt":"2009-06-16T21:45:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/comicscomicsmag.com\/2009\/06\/not-necessarily-deep-thoughts\/"},"modified":"2009-06-16T16:45:00","modified_gmt":"2009-06-16T21:45:00","slug":"not-necessarily-deep-thoughts-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/comicscomicsmag.com\/?p=489","title":{"rendered":"Not Necessarily Deep Thoughts"},"content":{"rendered":"

I. Did Jean-Luc Godard<\/a> ever consider becoming a novelist?<\/p>\n

Yes, of course. But I wrote, “The weather is nice. The train enters the station,” and I sat there for hours wondering why I couldn’t have just as well written the opposite: “The train enters the station. The weather is nice” or “it is raining.” In the cinema, it’s simpler. At the same time, the weather is nice and the train enters the station. There is something ineluctable about it. You have to go along with it.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

\u2014Godard, from a 1959 interview in L’Express<\/span>, included in Richard Brody<\/a>‘s entertaining, controversial<\/a> biography of the filmmaker, Everything is Cinema<\/a>.<\/div>\n

Brody goes on to call this concept central to Godard’s art, and “the basis for a grand theory”:<\/p>\n

[Godard’s] idea is to define montage as the simultaneous recording of disparate elements in a single image, the simultaneity in one image of two things that would happen sequentially on a page\u2014the train entering the station, the rain falling. In his view, the cinema does automatically what literature wants to do and cannot: it connects two ideas in one time.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

II. Is this “montage” really a failure of literature, prose’s unachievable ambition?<\/p>\n

How … does the work of reading a narrative differ from watching a film? In a film the illusion of reality comes from a series of pictures each slightly different. The difference represents a fixed chronological relation which the eye and the mind together render as motion.<\/p>\n

Words in a narrative generate tones of voice, syntactic expectations, memories of other words, and pictures. But rather than a fixed chronological relation, they sit in numerous inter- and overweaving relations. The process as we move our eyes from word to word is corrective and revisionary rather than progressive. Each new word revises the complex picture we had a moment before.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

<\/p>\n

\u2014Samuel R. Delany<\/a>, from his 1968 article, “About 5,750 Words”, included in The Jewel-Hinged Jaw<\/a>.<\/div>\n

III. These quotes raise that age-old, brain-numbing question: Are comic books more like movies or more like literature? I’m not going to try to resolve the matter here. (Though really, of course, the answer is neither.)<\/p>\n

With these particular quotes in mind, though, I recently started thinking about how exactly I experience reading comics. It differs depending on the comic, obviously, but I guess that my default way of reading the average, traditional comic is to first take a quick “skim” of the visual composition and art of the entire page (or two-page spread), then to proceed to a slightly longer glance at the art of the first panel. At that point, I usually read the narration and word balloons, and after that, I look more closely and patiently at the art. And then I go back and forth between the art and the words as often as is necessary to understand everything before moving on to the next panel. (And then sometimes I’ll have to go back to the first panel, sometimes I’ll skip ahead to look at the art for the last panel, etc. It wouldn’t be very entertaining to go on.)<\/p>\n

Obviously, none of this is a conscious procedure, and I wouldn’t even swear that it’s perfectly accurate. And even if it is, it doesn’t follow that everyone else (or anyone else) reads comics the same way that I do. (Not to mention more complicated and\/or idiosyncratically laid-out comics pages, like the endpapers in Ware<\/a>‘s ACME 18<\/a> or nearly any page by Ron Reg\u00e9<\/a>, to pick just two of many possible examples.) But the main point is that, unlike cinema, and like other arts including literature, the process of “reading” comic books isn’t a simultaneous one. It’s not image and word at once, but one after the other after the other.<\/p>\n

When people want to connect comic books to film (which used to be the main strategy comics fans employed to convince skeptical non-fans that comics were “art” before they switched to using literary fiction or poetry), Will Eisner<\/a> is the name more likely to come up than any other. And there’s no question that he was obviously influenced by cinematic ideas of composition and lighting. But it just occurred to me that the one element of his work that is most<\/span> consistently held up as “unique” to comics, the famous Spirit<\/span> splash pages that incorporate the titles visually into the mise en sc\u00e8ne (to steal some jargon), may in fact paradoxically be the most “cinematic” of all his effects. In a weird kind of way, they provide one of the only examples in comics that I can think of offhand that truly approaches Godard’s concept of montage, a simultaneous connection of two ideas that would normally be experienced sequentially\u2014image and word\u2014in a single instant.<\/p>\n

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