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		<title>By: What are you reading? &#124; Robot 6 @ Comic Book Resources &#8211; Covering Comic Book News and Entertainment</title>
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		<dc:creator>What are you reading? &#124; Robot 6 @ Comic Book Resources &#8211; Covering Comic Book News and Entertainment</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] This is the only volume which Caldas released in English (the rest are in Portugese). A lovely article by Dan Nadel on the appeal of Prince Valiant can be found at the Comics Comics website. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This is the only volume which Caldas released in English (the rest are in Portugese). A lovely article by Dan Nadel on the appeal of Prince Valiant can be found at the Comics Comics website. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Nadel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Nadel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Bill.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hmmm, I&#039;d like to have talked to Al Williamson in the 70s and then not remembered it. I bet he had/has some good and very off the record stories. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&#039;s interesting to think about how Manning, Frazetta and also Kirby each assimilated Foster&#039;s influence. Manning added a kind of 60s streamline sense of design and line, Frazetta a wild, only-in-Brooklyn dynamism and Kirby a modernist (and then psychedelic) sense of action and character. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Boy I&#039;d love to hear more about Manning. He seems to have been quite a character. And what a cartoonist. I confess to preferring Magnus to his Tarzan work, but maybe someone can recommend the right volume.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Bill.</p>
<p>Hmmm, I&#39;d like to have talked to Al Williamson in the 70s and then not remembered it. I bet he had/has some good and very off the record stories. </p>
<p>It&#39;s interesting to think about how Manning, Frazetta and also Kirby each assimilated Foster&#39;s influence. Manning added a kind of 60s streamline sense of design and line, Frazetta a wild, only-in-Brooklyn dynamism and Kirby a modernist (and then psychedelic) sense of action and character. </p>
<p>Boy I&#39;d love to hear more about Manning. He seems to have been quite a character. And what a cartoonist. I confess to preferring Magnus to his Tarzan work, but maybe someone can recommend the right volume.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(In response to my post, Dan privately e-mailed me and asked if I&#039;d elaborate on the breakthroughs Al Williamson and I were attempting within the comics medium. As you&#039;ll read, there&#039;s a problem with that.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Both Al and I (and lots of other artists, of course) were --- and are --- constantly seeking to innovate within the genre of comic art. By breaking new ground we wanted to have fun, be original and expand the parameters of the medium.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;d love to write about it. Unfortunately (for you, not for us), the conversations I referred to took place in the early 1970s, so I have no recollection of any specifics!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I do think, though, that the more conventional (conservative?) trappings of Prince Valiant hide a lot of how brilliant Foster was --- unlike the much more obvious examples one could put up for Kurtzman, Eisner or Toth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It wasn&#039;t mentioned but Frank Frazetta&#039;s biggest comic art influence (perhaps his biggest art influence, period) was Hal Foster. And although Russ Manning had a Burne Hogarth Tarzan original Sunday page on the wall of his studio, Russ was a Foster man all the way. Foster heavily influenced both the art and writing of Manning.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Russ&#039; love for Foster (and the magnificent examples he showed me of Foster&#039;s work) inspired me to track down all of Foster&#039;s Tarzan Sundays. I also managed to compile a complete collection of Prince Valiant Sundays from 1939 to 1950 (I have a few of the 1937 &amp; 1938 Vals but, man, those babies are expensive!).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The new book collection of Prince Valiant&#039;s first two years is a godsend. And it&#039;s got dinosaurs and a giant turtle! If you are new to the work of Harold Foster, you are in for a treat. And those first two years are just a warm-up. Wait until you see the African sequence!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(In response to my post, Dan privately e-mailed me and asked if I&#39;d elaborate on the breakthroughs Al Williamson and I were attempting within the comics medium. As you&#39;ll read, there&#39;s a problem with that.)</p>
<p>Both Al and I (and lots of other artists, of course) were &#8212; and are &#8212; constantly seeking to innovate within the genre of comic art. By breaking new ground we wanted to have fun, be original and expand the parameters of the medium.</p>
<p>I&#39;d love to write about it. Unfortunately (for you, not for us), the conversations I referred to took place in the early 1970s, so I have no recollection of any specifics!</p>
<p>I do think, though, that the more conventional (conservative?) trappings of Prince Valiant hide a lot of how brilliant Foster was &#8212; unlike the much more obvious examples one could put up for Kurtzman, Eisner or Toth.</p>
<p>It wasn&#39;t mentioned but Frank Frazetta&#39;s biggest comic art influence (perhaps his biggest art influence, period) was Hal Foster. And although Russ Manning had a Burne Hogarth Tarzan original Sunday page on the wall of his studio, Russ was a Foster man all the way. Foster heavily influenced both the art and writing of Manning.</p>
<p>Russ&#39; love for Foster (and the magnificent examples he showed me of Foster&#39;s work) inspired me to track down all of Foster&#39;s Tarzan Sundays. I also managed to compile a complete collection of Prince Valiant Sundays from 1939 to 1950 (I have a few of the 1937 &amp; 1938 Vals but, man, those babies are expensive!).</p>
<p>The new book collection of Prince Valiant&#39;s first two years is a godsend. And it&#39;s got dinosaurs and a giant turtle! If you are new to the work of Harold Foster, you are in for a treat. And those first two years are just a warm-up. Wait until you see the African sequence!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your sensitively written, illuminating, unprejudiced and perceptive take on Hal Foster. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Al Williamson and I used to laugh about the fact that whenever we thought we&#039;d made some big innovative breakthrough in comics, we&#039;d always discover that Foster had already done it. Humbling and amusing!&lt;br /&gt; ---William Stout</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your sensitively written, illuminating, unprejudiced and perceptive take on Hal Foster. </p>
<p>Al Williamson and I used to laugh about the fact that whenever we thought we&#39;d made some big innovative breakthrough in comics, we&#39;d always discover that Foster had already done it. Humbling and amusing!<br /> &#8212;William Stout</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Spurgeon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Spurgeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 05:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great piece. I&#039;ll be interested to hear your take on later strips with the domestic material in them.</description>
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		<title>By: tomN!</title>
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		<dc:creator>tomN!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember as a kid always wanting to read it because I was into King Arthur, but then I&#039;d be disappointed that it was about some kid named Valiant. So, I&#039;d never really read any Prince Valiant until this new edition. But from the first page I was completely sucked in and read the whole thing in one sitting... Then spent the last several weeks studying the pages more and more.  I can&#039;t believe I never read these before, but I&#039;m glad I&#039;ve found a new favorite comic strip. I wish Fantagraphics would hurry up and publish everything Hal Foster did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember as a kid always wanting to read it because I was into King Arthur, but then I&#39;d be disappointed that it was about some kid named Valiant. So, I&#39;d never really read any Prince Valiant until this new edition. But from the first page I was completely sucked in and read the whole thing in one sitting&#8230; Then spent the last several weeks studying the pages more and more.  I can&#39;t believe I never read these before, but I&#39;m glad I&#39;ve found a new favorite comic strip. I wish Fantagraphics would hurry up and publish everything Hal Foster did.</p>
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		<title>By: w</title>
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		<dc:creator>w</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 12:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m also knocked down by that Demon bit along with Foster&#039;s appreciation of Schulz. Wow and wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m also knocked down by that Demon bit along with Foster&#39;s appreciation of Schulz. Wow and wow.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Naber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel Naber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 01:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting post, Mr. Nadel. That you write so beautifully and unassumingly about your aesthetic experience with Prince Valiant makes me want to reconsider this strip, too. Bravo! The previous comment by Mr. Heer is also interesting: Your observations about Raymond and Caniff are probably quite true. But your remark about the &quot;wholesomeness&quot; that you find offputting in Foster is to me every bit as understandable as it raises questions: What is it with us today, that we do seem to find everything &quot;wholesome&quot; almost... uneasily kinky? (Please excuse my imperfect English.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting post, Mr. Nadel. That you write so beautifully and unassumingly about your aesthetic experience with Prince Valiant makes me want to reconsider this strip, too. Bravo! The previous comment by Mr. Heer is also interesting: Your observations about Raymond and Caniff are probably quite true. But your remark about the &quot;wholesomeness&quot; that you find offputting in Foster is to me every bit as understandable as it raises questions: What is it with us today, that we do seem to find everything &quot;wholesome&quot; almost&#8230; uneasily kinky? (Please excuse my imperfect English.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jeet Heer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeet Heer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 18:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve also struggled with Prince Valiant, and will do a post about my ambivalence in the next week or so. But I have to say, what puts me off is that &quot;wholesome&quot; quality Dan identifies. To my mind, the great thing about comics is that they aren&#039;t wholesome at all: their almost inherently kinky &amp; obsessive &amp; weird. Compare Foster to the Alex Raymond (whose Flash Gordon was filled with S&amp;M) or Caniff (there is a real &quot;Lolita&quot; strain to Steven Canyon with teenage girls always mooning after older men). But I&#039;ll also give Foster another shot and write more on him soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve also struggled with Prince Valiant, and will do a post about my ambivalence in the next week or so. But I have to say, what puts me off is that &quot;wholesome&quot; quality Dan identifies. To my mind, the great thing about comics is that they aren&#39;t wholesome at all: their almost inherently kinky &amp; obsessive &amp; weird. Compare Foster to the Alex Raymond (whose Flash Gordon was filled with S&amp;M) or Caniff (there is a real &quot;Lolita&quot; strain to Steven Canyon with teenage girls always mooning after older men). But I&#39;ll also give Foster another shot and write more on him soon.</p>
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		<title>By: BVS</title>
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		<dc:creator>BVS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, I didn&#039;t know the Demon was a Hal foster swipe. that&#039;s a really cool page. I am definitely going to have to check out the New Prince Valiant editions and give it a second chance. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;it&#039;s one of those classic comics that I long since dismissed.&lt;br /&gt;as a kid when I&#039;d see the old fantagraphics reprints at a library one of my main gripes with it was always the lack of monsters. the guy could draw amazingly well and I wanted to like the comic, but everything always looked like it&#039;s taking place on a golf course, or at Disney land. Foster&#039;s version of an Ogre is just a big fat red haired man. to me the strip looked fake, it looked like it was supposed to look more like a 1930s swashbuckling movie than it did someone&#039;s actual fantasy world. like he was forcing the special effects and costume limitations of theater and film on his comics.&lt;br /&gt; I could never imagine the kind of child who was entertained by that comic. when my grandfather told me it was his favorite comic growing up, In my nintendo damaged mind I felt sorry for the old man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, I didn&#39;t know the Demon was a Hal foster swipe. that&#39;s a really cool page. I am definitely going to have to check out the New Prince Valiant editions and give it a second chance. </p>
<p>it&#39;s one of those classic comics that I long since dismissed.<br />as a kid when I&#39;d see the old fantagraphics reprints at a library one of my main gripes with it was always the lack of monsters. the guy could draw amazingly well and I wanted to like the comic, but everything always looked like it&#39;s taking place on a golf course, or at Disney land. Foster&#39;s version of an Ogre is just a big fat red haired man. to me the strip looked fake, it looked like it was supposed to look more like a 1930s swashbuckling movie than it did someone&#39;s actual fantasy world. like he was forcing the special effects and costume limitations of theater and film on his comics.<br /> I could never imagine the kind of child who was entertained by that comic. when my grandfather told me it was his favorite comic growing up, In my nintendo damaged mind I felt sorry for the old man.</p>
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